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More like an evil demiurge... :D
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Right. Montgomery is - if any type - close to the classic dissolute British remittance man, who was paid money by his family to stay in exile, but not quite. A singularly useless person.
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(Quote) I think that is not a bad stab! ;)
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(Quote) I have read a lot of Wells over the years.
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(Quote) I don't know what message he was trying to send here, but I doubt very much it was the above. That would go against things he has said in other works. There was, for example, a scathing condemnation of British treatment of colonials in Sout…
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I think the death of Moreau is the climax. The killing of the stalker and Montgomery's death are just the final spasms.
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(Quote) My reading? Moreau is not lifting us - we cannot be lifted. If someone lifts us we can only fall again. We must climb out on our own. It is our will to get better that sustains us.
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I think he deliberately removed the religious to emphasize the brutality and squalor of these humans. Wells was a person who believed in God, and did believe that religion could and did inspire people out of their inherent brutality.
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It certainly wouldn't be the same. :D
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Well, there could be any number of issues read into it, and Wells most like meant for us to do that. Here is my precis of his views: Wells was a committed Socialist, and he hardly ever wrote fiction in his later years, preferring politics and socia…
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It was almost identical to the story in the Islanders, as @RichardAbbott said. If it was any different at all, I didn't care enough to read it minutely enough to detect where it was different.
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I wouldn't use it. My players would try to help the animal folk when all they really want to do is eat each other.
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I think the book is a metaphor for the human condition. Our culture is merely a temporary order amidst the crawling chaos, and will inevitably degrade into such
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M'ling had a name. Also note the names of the ships. Vain - self-absorbed. Scorpion - a venomous crawling thing. Medusa - a woman with venomous snakes for hair that turned everything living to stone. Ipecacuana - a plant which causes immediate and v…
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Curse your sudden but inevitable dissolution!
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With Neil again here, except this may be - actually I should say is likely to be - entirely intentional on Wells' part. Actually very likely. Wells was a dark soul, and took the dimmest possible view of people.
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Montgomery? His role is to get drunk and screw up everything he touches.
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I realized quickly that Moreau was a sadistic sociopath, Montgomery was a pathetic ineffectual turd, and Prendick was an exploitative false ally, looking for a Brunei to rule. Fortunately the animals were not 'uplifted', and soon reverted to their u…
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Welles may not have intended any such thing, but from the first I saw the standard 'comic book people A are metaphors for real life social ills so that we may address them.' I liked the animals far more than the people.
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Neil nailed it! Prendick was paranoid at first, so you thought 'Ah! Tension! Thriller!' Then you realized he was just paranoid. Then you thought 'maybe he was imagining the whole animal thing!' Or maybe that was just me!
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Cool creepy horror story! Loved the baby's arm (Holding an apple?) in his pocket! Very enjoyable nonsense!
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(Quote) I do indeed!
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And it's a literal Cold War... And I read it as @RichardAbbott did - that both surrendered to each other, though I am fairly sure the other soldier was an illusion from the gas.
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First, I am enjoying this book much more than the Islanders. The first story destroys any notion that the world of the Islanders has any connection to ours, as the physical laws which underlay it are completely different, and not rigorously applied.…
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I really liked Long Way and have continued on with the series. A Closed and Common Orbit is one of my favorites. I love how the two storylines complement each other,
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(Quote) Yes, Welcome back dr. mitch! :D
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End of the month, like May thirty-fifth...
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(Quote) Yes, Ray!
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(Quote) Ah! Yes! That is much what I was thinking!
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That was intended as a confirmation from experience, not a dispute... ;)

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