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  • In _Urth of the New Sun_, Severian travels aboard a starship that may be one of a fleet, or perhaps the only ship in the Universe, to the planet where he is judged. The operations of the ship are enigmatic and strange, and Severian making friends am…
  • "Unnecessary" is an interesting criticism, because it implies that you already know what's supposed to be happening. I think the Typhon episode is an interesting bit of world-building as well as an intriguing piece of the overall puzzle of…
  • Someone is gunning for Severian, and has powerful alien weapons at their disposal! Why does Severian matter so much? It must have something to do with his eventual accession to the Autarchy, right? Is he somehow in line for the throne? After all, we…
  • In his dream, he rode a mitred, leather-winged steed. A mitre or miter is a tall, conical hat of the sort worn by bishops. Thus, it seems reasonable to suppose that he is riding on something like a pteranodon.
  • What other entertainment do they seem to have?
  • The first time I read this, many years ago, the fact that Severian possessed the Claw of the Conciliator was something that I missed, even though the textual clues are there in retrospect. Same with Agilus and Agia. So the revelations of these chapt…
  • Robert and Marie are clearly phantoms from the 20th century, as is suggested by their names and their (to Severian) primitive supply plane, not ghosts from Severian's future. Their significance is not really clear to me either, but I think the dislo…
  • As others have said, Book of the Long Sun is set in the same universe as Book of the New Sun. It's difficult to say where they are in relation to each other temporally, I think. Long Sun is set on a generation ship that eventually reaches its destin…
  • I love the world-building in these first few chapters. We get a sense of the physical layout of the Citadel and the social organization of the city, including political discontent against the Autarch as well as the presence of some different guilds …
  • I think @Michael_S_Miller had something to do with it ;-)
  • I am excited for this slow read. It's not hard but I think it's subtle; a lot is understated. Reading it slow will let me pick up stuff that I missed the previous times I read it (so long ago!)
  • Here's my vote: 3 Wolfe (Re-read all four books? Enthusiastic yes!) 2 Herbert (Dune is complete in and of itself and is the classic, so let's just read that--or maybe we should start with Dune Messiah and read through God Emperor. But none of the b…
  • Here's the thing I see about Lyonesse: there are clearly good guys and bad guys, as well as more ambiguous types. As an aside: you can almost use a D&D alignment chart on the characters: Casmir is lawful evil, Torqual is chaotic evil, Aillas is …
  • > @RichardAbbott said: > @hasaph said: > > (It’s hard to stay focused on the first book after learning more later.) > > > I wondered that as I read it, and especially when lots of the discussion comments say thi…
  • (Quote) Fair enough. But, I mean, it's not Nomads of Gor.
  • (Quote) I think to call it a projection of Vance's desires into his writing doesn't give him enough credit. To paraphrase von Clausewitz, sexual violence is sexual politics by other means, and the theme of sexual politics is shot through the entire …
  • @Apocryphal Yes, you have! My brother and I are trying to find time in our schedules to do more Virtual Play!
  • On the other hand, it seems fair to me to say that the three books aren't that tightly plotted outside of the Aillas story. Take a look at the Epilogue to Suldrun's Garden and then read The Green Pearl: Most of the events implied by the Epilogue are…
  • In response to the main question of this thread, and moving forward from the notion that Suldrun's Garden is basically about Aillas as the hero, I'd argue that there is a "main bad guy" and it's King Casmir. He is responsible for the centr…
  • Suldrun's Garden is part one of a trilogy, and so it's essentially the beginning of the story that continues in The Green Pearl and concludes in Madouc. So some of the sense of formlessness that affects some readers can be attributed to that. The pl…